DRAFT: Spain… Debt… WEDO… Unemployment… Politicians…

I now want to work on this issue first.
Patti chiari, amicizia lunga, il Conte MAX vuole un DINHO simil-ETO’O: “Da lui mi aspetto MOLTO ma la tecnica NON BASTA… “ Jul 21, 2010 / By Goal
Patti make good friends, the Count wants a DINHO MAX-like Eto’o: “I expect a lot from him but the technique is not enough …”
“My Milan must be concrete, as was Prime Minister Berlusconi yesterday ..”

PART-?h: Money-Mad Football! Where Will It End? Elsewhere You Go, RealMadrid’s Spending Spree Serves As A Shining Example. Should The Spanish Giants Fear UEFA’s New-Rule? Any Clubs But RealMadrid Will Face Exclusion From The Competition. Will Spain Declare Bankruptcy? IMF Will Promise Spain “The Same TV-Income & Tax-Advantage & Helpful-Banks”. IMF Will Pay “Galácticos”, Which Will Eventually Create The Most Commercial Ultimate Champions League!
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PART-??i: What If The Entire Serie-A Were Handed Over To Foreign Owners? “Old Screw Silvio” Has Spent “€461M Since 2003” Or “€461M-Plus-Much-More Since 1986” For AC-Milan’s Rossoneri, Whereas Rossoneri’s Favorite Club Owner, “Sir Foreigner”, Spent NO Penny And The Club Marks More Deficit!
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PART-??j: World Cup Failed In England, Too. Foreign Owners Are Blamed. Weird That INTER’s Italian Owner Played The Same Role But Is Instead Praised…
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PART-?h: Money-Mad Football! Where Will It End? Elsewhere You Go, RealMadrid’s Spending Spree Serves As A Shining Example. Should The Spanish Giants Fear UEFA’s New-Rule? Any Clubs But RealMadrid Will Face Exclusion From The Competition. Will Spain Declare Bankruptcy? IMF Will Promise Spain “The Same TV-Income & Tax-Advantage & Helpful-Banks”. IMF Will Pay “Galácticos”, Which Will Eventually Create The Most Commercial Ultimate Champions League!

(Updated on JULY 21, 2010)

(JIWON: Please enjoy your imagination.)

Champions League? Forget it! Debt-ridden Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool could face exclusion in future with UEFA set to ratify new financial fair play rules May 26, 2010 / By dailymail.co.uk
Just six of the current Premier League teams would be permitted to qualify for future European competitions under new UEFA ‘financial fair play’ rules (…) Clubs subsidised by loans from rich owners will also no longer be eligible for Europe under the new rules. This would hit Chelsea and City, whose losses of £47million and £93m were covered by Roman Abramovic and Sheik Mansour respectively. (…) Financial results from 2008-09 – the most recent figures available – show that … 14 clubs in total made substantial losses. Manchester United made a profit only because of Cristianio Ronaldo’s world record £80m transfer to Real Madrid.

Money-mad football – where will it end? Jul 15, 2010 / By bleacherreport.com
With first Chelsea, then Real Madrid and now Manchester City shelling out vast sums of money on big-name players, many fans have been asking where it will end. (…) Revenues more than halved in the 2008/09 season, falling from £185m in 2007/08 to just £79m, which Deloitte described as ‘a decline that cannot continue indefinitely’. At the same time, wages went up, with the amount of revenue spent on wages reaching 67%. (…) UEFA-NEW-RULE (…) This won’t necessarily affect clubs in debt, such as Manchester United and Liverpool, as long as they can afford their interest payments without going into the red. It will, however, affect clubs like Chelsea and Man City who currently operate at a loss. (…)

UEFA chief Michel Platini blasts liberal Premier League after Club-X collapse Apr 29, 2010 / By dailymal
(…) “That’s not correct, but it’s what has happened in football: you don’t have the money to buy the players, but you get the players and in the end you cheat and win the competition. That’s not correct,” said Platini. The Premier League responded to Platini’s comments by saying in a statement: ‘… The new rules … should prevent another club in the Premier League reaching the point where their very existence is threatened. Having said that, regulation is not a cure-all. There are numerous examples of clubs in leagues deemed to be more heavily regulated than the Premier League that have got into difficulties.’

Alarm for Spain over debt pain May 20, 2010 / By thestandard.com.hk
As Spain’s government grapples with its own yawning budget deficit, the finances of the country’s top football clubs continue to spiral out of control. (…) Real and Barca have come under pressure to relinquish their stranglehold over TV cash and adopt the system in rival European leagues where money is shared, but they fear this would make them less competitive in Europe. (…)

Spain triumph, La Liga clubs broke ‎Jul 12, 2010‎ / By Yahoo!Xtra Blogs (blog)
(…) Poorer clubs have urged the government to introduce the system used in the English Premier League and elsewhere where deals are negotiated collectively, but the secretary of state for sport has said that he sees no reason to intervene. (…) “The problem with Spanish football is exactly the same as the one that led the country as a whole into the current crisis,” Gay said on Friday. “Spending beyond earning capacity, falling back on borrowing from banks and paying too much for assets, above all players. (…) they did not think the clubs’ financial difficulties would threaten Spain’s ability to compete in international competition in the future. … “Now the officials — the league, the federation and the government — and the clubs have to work out how best to make money out of this amazing success. It depends on them.”

Spanish Banks Increasingly Rely on ECB Funding Jul 14, 2010 / By WSJ

IMF chief backs Madrid’s austerity measures Jun 18, 2010 / By France24
IMF says Spain’s economy is in a ‘good situation’ Jun 18, 2010 / By bbc.co.uk

When Will The Premier League Bubble Burst? Jun 28, 2010 / By bleacherreport
(…) Competition. Although the Premier League is the undisputed leader in terms of global popularity, that could change if more of football’s top stars decide to move to another league like La Liga, e.g. Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid, when the “product” would be devalued. There is some evidence that fans in emerging markets attach themselves more to individual players than teams. (…)

French Clubs Count Cost Of Economic Downturn Jul 22, 2010 / By peacefmonline
Hit hard by the economic crisis, French football clubs are moving towards shorter, less lucrative contracts for their players and a greater emphasis on youth development. (…) “The public was struck by the big transfers of Real Madrid, and Lyon and Marseille in France, but apart from that, the market was already sinking,” he told AFP. (…) He also criticised the French government’s decision last year to scrap the law that enabled French clubs to pass a proportion of their collective image rights onto their players as bonuses. (…) Increased pressure on players’ salaries will not be distributed equally, however. “Those who suffer the most won’t be the stars but the average players,” warns sport sociologist. “We’ll see pressure on the good domestic players and the youngsters to keep something in reserve for the potential stars.” (…)

UEFA president Platini annoyed by Real Madrid’s spending spree but there is no way to stop the Spanish giants Jul 2, 2009 / By blog.taragana.com
Platini is annoyed by Real Madrid’s summer spending spree but there is no way to stop the Spanish giants from splashing out the money. … “I can not understand that you can spend 90 million euros on a player. It annoys me,” said Platini. But the former France playmaker also conceded that UEFA had NO POWER to stop clubs from spending huge sums. “I repeat: WHAT CAN I DO IF THE CLUBS HAVE THE MONEY?,” Platini asked.

(JIWON: What does your imagination skill tell you about UEFA Champions League years later, when the Spanish Giants will be the only one left, who will be still, officially-or-secretly-or-legally, offered ENOUGH MONEY to make ALL the top stars decide to move to La Liga? Interestingly enough, below is what I found after finishing ALL my writings on this issue.)

Champions League? Forget it! Debt-ridden Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool could face exclusion in future with UEFA set to ratify new financial fair play rules May 26, 2010 / By dailymail.co.uk
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Comment-Mike Britton, Wilts, 27/5/2010 0:28: Surely also Real Madrid would not be eligible, as there is no way on this earth they break even
Comment-stu, Chelmsford, essex, 26/5/2010 21:34: Well I hope this rule applies to Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Champions League? Forget it! Debt-ridden Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool could face exclusion in future with UEFA set to ratify new financial fair play rules May 26, 2010 / By dailymail.co.uk
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Comment-Karla Hilton, Lancashire lassie, 26/5/2010 22:27: Why will it not apply to Madrid? You’ll be telling me next that they pay for all those over-inflated transfers out of their own pocket next, Ha, Ha.
Comment-Steve, Manchester, 27/5/2010 0:30: This won’t affect Manchester City, Mansours investment is all equity (ie shares). No debt has accrued to the club. He really should be focusing on clubs that are so indebted that they need the CL to survive and the owners that have brought those clubs to that position, Glazers, Hicks and Gillette for example. He could even mention those that are bailed out by Governments such as Real Madrid.
Comment-Ken Bethell, Mazarron, Spain, 27/5/2010: Let’s start a ‘Rid Europe of Platini’ campaign. Finance is one thing but if Platini has his way football will also become a non-contact sport. Also how would anybody be able to determine Real Madrid’s eligibility since their finances seem to be a secret known only to a select few. Nobody knows where the money came from to buy Ronaldo and Kaka so European officialdom has no hope of enforcing any financial regulations.
Comment-Dustin, Chicago, 27/5/2010 6:23: How about Real and Barca paying silly money right now? they would have to be in debt. And if they aren’t, it has to do with La Liga’s backwards television policy which allows them to negotiate their own deals. Maybe Platini should start spending some time meddling in the least competitive league in Europe. If I am correct all other teams in the league are debt ridden, probably due to the fact they don’t receive jack for TV money. Oh well, he is biased and this would almost ensure that champions lg glory and the planets best football players end up in Spain for the foreseeable future. A Joke

Champions League? Forget it! Debt-ridden Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool could face exclusion in future with UEFA set to ratify new financial fair play rules May 26, 2010 / By dailymail.co.uk
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Comment-R Evans, Chiang Mai.Thailand, 27/5/2010 16:39: SO, a club has to keep its expenditure less than its income and mega rich owners can’t simply pay out for transfers from their own pockets. Easily avoided. The merga rich owner simply rents a stand seat at 50 million a year, via a company he owns. This counts as income and so the club has an extra 50 million each year to finance transfers.
Comment-Bob, Liverpool, 27/5/2010 16:16: I think the idea is about 10 years too late and dose’nt go anywhere near far enough to stop subsidising at clubs. The problem is that FIFA started the whole thing by altering rules to allow UEFA to create the Champions league to include more teams and generate more televised revenue for them and the clubs involved. You cannot go and re-create a european league of both Champions and Non- Champions, create two group stages followed by knockouts and say that it is for anything more than pure corporate greed. The problem is though you also create this systemic that clubs must aspire for financial elitism and create mini corporate institutions of their own at any cost in order to fit in to the ‘UEFA CLUB’ This forces clubs to be reckless because of the implications of missing out. Remember Italy in the 90s anyone ? Or how Barca and Real can monopolise their TV rites and rake in millions ? Complete Hypocrisy lady’s and Gentlemen .
Comment-Stephen, St. Ives, England, 26/5/2010 21:40: But didn’t Abramanovich recently convert Chelsea’s debt into equity, I would guess the owners of Manchester City would do the same with any debt they have. Although this focuses on English clubs how many of the big clubs in Spain, Italy and Germany are in a similar position. If all the big clubs are excluded from the Champions League, UEFA are going to find their television rights are only worth a fraction of their current value. It might also lead to the big clubs setting up their own European league in opposition the UEFA’s competitions.
Comment-Jim, NOTL Canada, 28/5/2010 7:10: I would suggest to Platini be careful what you wish for. The end result might be the big 20 European clubs breaking away and forming their own League. Then he’ll be happy having a bunch no name clubs who don’t have “benefactors” and guess who the television stations will follow?

(JIWON: May God Bless Spain!
Dear Soccer Fans All Over The World!
Why don’t you cheer up ALL your favorite football players to immigrate into this holy country, Spain?
)

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PART-?a: It All Started With This Italian Troublemaker Jr.
PART-?b: Who Says That “The Spend More Than You Earn Culture In Football” Started In Spain?
PART-?c: In Spain, Where Only “RealMadrid & Barcelona” Have Been Safe, “The Combined Debt Of Spanish Clubs” Is Now More Than 3 Billion Euros. It’s Going Up. Of Course, The World Of Football Is Not Immune…
PART-?d: “RealMadrid & Barcelona” Dominate La-Liga Because They Negotiate Their Own TV Deals. They Rake In “Half Their Income” From Audiovisual Rights. Has La-Liga Become The Best In Europe? The Evidence Was Two-Fold…
PART-?e: Yes, Barcelona Is Now In “Debt”. According To The Media, RealMadrid Is Still Spending. No One Is Really Sure What Means “Debt” In Madrid. First Of All, Absolutely No Professional Soccer-Media Is Making This An Issue. WHY? What Really Means “UEFA Competition”?
PART-?f: World Cup Is Over! Spain Triumph, La-Liga Clubs Broke. Government Doesn’t Care. Nor Does “Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)”. This Is How The Country As A Whole Has Been Led Into The Current Crisis. No One Has To Worry, Of Course. The National Team Will Conduct An Extraordinary Marketing Campaign.
PART-?g: Thanks To Economic Woes, Austerity Is Now The Mantra For RealMadrid Wanting To Spend No More Than €100M This Summer. Isn’t This Amount, €100M, The UEFA Champion INTER’s Affluent Spending? What A Country! Serie-A Will Have To Spend More. EPL Will Have To Spend Much More.
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PART-???: What If The Entire Serie-A Were Handed Over To Foreign Owners? “Old Screw Silvio” Has Spent “€461M Since 2003” Or “€461M-Plus-Much-More Since 1986” For AC-Milan’s Rossoneri, Whereas Rossoneri’s Favorite Club Owner, “Sir Foreigner”, Spent NO Penny And The Club Marks More Deficit!
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PART-?e: Yes, Barcelona Is Now In “Debt”. According To The Media, RealMadrid Is Still Spending. No One Is Really Sure What Means “Debt” In Madrid. First Of All, Absolutely No Professional Soccer-Media Is Making This An Issue. WHY? What Really Means “UEFA Competition”?
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(JIWON: Doesn’t this country look like a heaven? I believe. ALL the professional footballers and musicians should immigrate into this beautiful country. Entire my life, I’ve NEVER seen a professional situation such as this.)

(Updated on JULY 21, 2010)

UEFA president Platini annoyed by Real Madrid’s spending spree but there is no way to stop the Spanish giants Jul 2, 2009 / By blog.taragana.com
Real post huge debt after summer spending spree Sep 20, 2009 / By soccernet
Who Will Real Madrid Blame If They Fail In Europe Again? Feb 19, 2010 / By footballnewsblog

(JIWON: Interestingly enough, I was able to find these articles when I changed the keywords into Google-Search: Madrid+Football+Huge+Spending, instead of using these words, “Madrid+Football+Debt”.)

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PART-?f: World Cup Is Over! Spain Triumph, La-Liga Clubs Broke. Government Doesn’t Care. Nor Does “Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF)”. This Is How The Country As A Whole Has Been Led Into The Current Crisis. No One Has To Worry, Of Course. The National Team Will Conduct An Extraordinary Marketing Campaign.

Spain’s Cup joy gives relief from economic woes ‎Jul 8, 2010‎ / By International Media

Turmoil at home, but Spain are profiting from an investment of national pride Jul 11, 2010 / By heraldscotland.com
(…) Admittedly it is a stretch to try and load full economic recovery on the shoulders of 11 men who will be dressed in blue, rather than red, tonight in Soccer City given that Spain is Team B and Holland will be playing in their famous orange. The football played by the “Furia Roja” (Red Fury) two years ago was more seductive than this vintage, but did nothing to stop financial depression hammering Spain. Victory would, however, greatly shore up the prestige of Spanish domestic football, which has seen its two great brand-name clubs, Real Madrid and FC Barcelona, rack up combined debts of $700m and where the two main television companies have just emerged from a vicious court battle that has left one of them, Mediapro, struggling to make payments to clubs. (…)

(JIWON: It was before the World Cup Final. They say that 2008 UEFA European Football Championship couldn’t help the Spanish Politicians wake up.)

Spain’s football success helps erase economic woes Jul 10, 2010 / By International Media
It’s fiesta time in Spain after World Cup win Jul 12, 2010 / By International Media

(JIWON: This is after the World Cup Final.)

Spain triumph, La Liga clubs broke ‎Jul 12, 2010‎ / By Yahoo!Xtra Blogs (blog)
La Liga – Spain success masking Liga trouble ‎Jul 10, 2010 / By uk.eurosport.yahoo.com‎
World Cup Triumph Helps Mask the Dire Financial State of Spain’s Domestic Clubs Jul 13, 2010‎ / By thejakartaglobe.com
Spain’s triumphant march to its first World Cup success has deflected attention from the parlous financial state of many of the clubs living beyond their means in the domestic league. (…) BARCA-IN-DEBT-TOO (…) Spain’s worst recession in at least 50 years, the collapse of the real estate market and surging wage and transfer costs have combined to push clubs deeper into the red and forced some to the brink of bankruptcy. The situation has been critical for some time now, but little action has been taken by the Spain football association, the professional football league or the government. A large part of the problem is the power wielded by Barcelona and its big-spending archrival, Real Madrid. (…)
The battle over income from Spanish TV deals escalated in May when some richer teams said they planned to create a separate first division. Poorer clubs have urged the government to introduce the system used in the English Premier League and elsewhere where deals are negotiated collectively, but the secretary of state for sport has said that he sees no reason to intervene.
In an interview at Spain’s World Cup training base in Potchefstroom on Friday, the president of Spain’s football association, Angel Maria Villar, said he did not want to discuss the financial woes of clubs in the domestic league and only wanted to talk about the national team. (…)
“The problem with Spanish football is exactly the same as the one that led the country as a whole into the current crisis,” Gay said on Friday. “Spending beyond earning capacity, falling back on borrowing from banks and paying too much for assets, above all players. In the end, if there is no profit, what is happening now occurs: losses, unmanageable debt and uncertainty reigning over Spanish football,” he said. (…)

(JIWON: It is none but Spanish Expert, who says that “Spending beyond earning capacity, falling back on borrowing from banks and paying too much for assets” is the very Spanish.)

Spain triumph, La Liga clubs broke ‎Jul 12, 2010‎ / By Yahoo!Xtra Blogs (blog)
Gay and Barajas said they did not think the clubs’ financial difficulties would threaten Spain’s ability to compete in international competition in the future. “The success of the national team [in South Africa] could raise the international profile of La Liga and our product would be much better adapted for sale to the wider world,” Gay said. “The national team is conducting an extraordinary marketing campaign, which will serve to open eyes around the globe to the greatness of our football.
Now the officials — the league, the federation and the government — and the clubs have to work out how best to make money out of this amazing success. It depends on them.”

World Cup seals Spain’s sports superpower status Jul 13, 2010 / By etaiwannews.com
(…) Spain’s recent emergence as a sports powerhouse. … And even though Spain has been badly damaged by the current European debt crisis, experts predict it won’t lose its edge on the playing fields. (…) Football, tennis and cycling have been the staples of Spanish sports for decades. … However, most of the above were in their prime before Spain embarked on its construction-driven economic boom in the mid-1990s. The corresponding investment in the country’s sports facilities has led to unprecedented success. (…) The only cloud on the horizon is the economic situation. Spain’s success story came to a shuddering halt as the world recession started to bite. The big question is whether this will hurt the country’s future attempts to win major trophies. … “Sport is no less susceptible to (the recession) than other sectors, but we have strong structures and financing systems and support to be able to weather it,” he said.

(JIWON: It is none but Spanish Expert, too, who says that the very Spanish financing system will make them survive. What a country.)

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PART-?g: Thanks To Economic Woes, Austerity Is Now The Mantra For RealMadrid Wanting To Spend No More Than €100M This Summer. Isn’t This Amount, €100M, The UEFA Champion INTER’s Affluent Spending? What A Country! Serie-A Will Have To Spend More. EPL Will Have To Spend Much More.

(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT
(Updated on JULY 21, 2010)

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🙂 PART-6: AC-Milan Only Have €30M To Spend Compared To Inter’s €100M. UEFA Sets New Rules? What Is The Most Profitable Business For “La Voce dei Rossoneri”, When Both “Football World & Italy” Are On The Brink Of Bankruptcy? (May 28 -Jun 11, 2010)

(JIWON: Aren’t ALL the Italians now tearing their hearts out about the UEFA Champion INTER’s dazzling performance on this beautiful budget?)

Summer of austerity ahead in Spain Jul 16, 2010 / By supersport.com
(…) Now it’s back to reality for Spanish football after the epiphany of their first World Cup triumph. … Mediapro, the company that has the television rights for La Liga, filed for bankruptcy three weeks ago, leaving the clubs uncertain as to whether they will actually receive the money promised to them for the next few years. In addition, clubs are worried about sales of (…)
For all these reasons, austerity is now the mantra for Spain’s football clubs. … Even Real boss Florentino Perez, the world’s most profligate club president, seems to have accepted that times have changed. … According to the media, Perez does not want to spend more than €100 million this summer, which by his legendary standards constitutes a veritable austerity drive. (…) Barcelona are also trying to reduce their debts and spending. (…) If even Real and Barca are determined to spend less, then it goes without saying that the smaller clubs will follow suit.

(JIWON: NO comment on this issue. Am I qualified to criticize this holy Spain? I am just in a perfect situation to analyze exactly what kind of cancerous role the Spanish West-Eastern-Divan-Orchestra members have been playing in the professional world of MUSIC elsewhere they go.)

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PART-?e: Yes, Barcelona Is Now In “Debt”. According To The Media, RealMadrid Is Still Spending. No One Is Really Sure What Means “Debt” In Madrid…

(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT
(Updated on JULY 20, 2010)

Barcelona Fail To Pay Players (at the end of June) Jul 8, 2010 / By worldnewsheardnow.com
Barcelona Secure €155 Million Credit Loan Jul 14, 2010 / By Goal
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Comment-Mark Madridista / 10:56 PM Jul 14, 2010: This is why i hate barca. they keep on criticizing real madrid for spending and loaning when they do exactly the same thing. they have this fake concept of developing youth players but in all actuality this only happened recently. when you look at barca’s history, both the 1992 and 2006 CL titles were won with mostly foreign players. madrid in 1966 won the european cup with all spanish players, majority of the team coming from the youth system. [Agree 9 : Disagree 4]
Comment-vivaa spain / 7:30 PM Jul 14, 2010: Barca are becoming like madrid, dont like it!! [Agree 2 : Disagree 2]
Comment-brendan usa / 7:18 PM Jul 14, 2010: i hope barca fans are as quick to criticize themselves as they were to criticize real madris last summer. i bet they wont be. [Agree 5 : Disagree 2]
Comment-lucifer milano / 7:48 PM Jul 14, 2010: this is sick spain suffer economically and have such debt and two club spend money they don’t have barca cant even pay their players wages sick sick sick [Agree 6 : Disagree 0]
Comment-Peter Dublin / 6:44 PM Jul 14, 2010: What a joke of a club. Despite all their success of the last few years and still they have huge debts. [Agree 3 : Disagree 2]

(JIWON: Meanwhile, I had a real hard time to get information on Real Madrid’s financial situation. Absolutely NO professional soccer-media was making this an issue. Finally…)

Thread: Are Real Madrid in any debt? May 12, 2010 / By manutdtalk.com
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Comment-Jock_Stein / 12-05-2010 12:13 PM: I thought they were up to their necks in it but according to the media, they are in for another summer of huge spending. I asked this question on another forum but no-one was really sure.
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 12:57 PM: all i know is that ‘debt’ doesn’t really have the same meaning for real as it does for other clubs…
Comment-Comment-sweet fa / 12-05-2010 13:26 PM: at real the banks and government back them and waive debts that would kill any other club, in reality their the most in debt club on the planet but are constantly bailed out.
Comment-Jock_Stein / 12-05-2010 13:40 PM: read of numbers being thrown about that Real Madrid were around £800 million in debt & if they are getting paid off by the Government or large banks it hardly seems fair to every other team in La Liga.
Comment-Carlo / 12-05-2010 13:44 PM: That’s the way it works in Spain though, backhanders everywhere, it’s probably now the most corrupt government/country in Europe. The way Real is run is a joke, it is completely unfair on every other team in the world, let alone in Spain. Dodgy land deals, non payable loans, interest free loans and cash injections from the Gvt/Banks, it shouldn’t be allowed, full stop
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 13:45 PM: in that article i posted it states that barca are in 350m euro’s of debt… but you never ever ever hear that mentioned in relation to europes most devine and pure club!
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 13:48 PM: and platini and blatter will never do a thing… at least in england our borrowing is ‘traditional borrowing’ as in ‘traditional loans’ and ‘traditional financial agreements’… and it is all visible on accounts.
Comment-lucretius / 12-05-2010 13:59 PM: the simple answer to the question is that, yes, they are in debt, but the debt they have accrued is mostly in interest-free loans with no fixed repayments. the specifics are a little more complicated, but as carlo mentioned there’s a plethora of dodgy dealings
Comment-PeeJay / 12-05-2010 14:11 PM: There’s nothing dodgy about Real Madrid’s debt. They’re a non-profit organization and are loaned money by some similarly non-profit banks, which equates to low interest rates which can be restructured with relative ease. Oh and as for Spain’s corruption, XZY are much more corrupt, to name a few.
Comment-RN10 / 12-05-2010 14:40 PM: Am i not right in saying the royal family of spain have something to do with real madrid as well that’s why they always get bailed out of the 100’s of millions of debt they rack up?
Comment-ClamBuster / 13-05-2010 08:13 PM: cheers brother.. But for anyone that cant be bothered to read it all:

Real – 683m euro’s in debt
Barca – 350m euro’s in debt
Spanish football – 3.5bn euro’s in debt
Unpaid wages in spanish football stands at 100m euro’s

(JIWON: After posting “The Draft”, this is what I got.)

Manchester United v Real Madrid – which is the bigger club and why? Jul 14, 2010 / By soccerlens.com
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Comment by: dogbreath 14/07/2010 @ 07:53: Measured by the amount of debt a club can sustain, United is the biggest club in the world. Measured by the intelligence and sweet disposition of its manager, United is the biggest club in the world. Measured by decades of corrupt interference in its own league in its favour by a brutal dictator, RM is the biggest club in the world.
Comment by: wiuru 14/07/2010 @ 08:13: In the current climate RM hold all the cards im a UTD fan and believe there isnt a level playing field on which to judge this. Tax Breaks, Government and Backing of financial institutions keep Rm at the top of the heap. Barca in football terms lead.
Comment by: Abhay 14/07/2010 @ 08:14: Greatness is the sum total of a club’s football and other activities. Real may have won countless trophies, but ones who think they did by only fair means are kidding themselves. Real aren’t even the “greatest” team in Spain, let alone the world. The cruelties mounted by Franco against a club like Barcelona during his reign are proof that Madrid never won a single trophy in the pre-80’s era through fair means. … By contrast, United have been victims of tragedies like the WWII bombings … The fact of the matter is, Madrid will always be known as the playground of superstars, but home is where the heart is, and Madrid will never compare to this: United, home to- Ronaldo, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Best, Charlton, Meredith, et al. Madrid, home to- err… Raul?!
Comment by: Mico 14/07/2010 @ 08:52: To dismiss Manchester United’s claims for being the biggest team in the World is to be ignorant of all the facts. Real Madrid is a team that has forged it’s history in a ‘Scottish’ type league with no real contenders outside of Barcelona, and through a sequence of wins in the old European Cup that hides the fact that the teams involved at that very early point in the competitions history were not actually the big teams of Europe. Add to this the unbelievable ‘bank rolling’ Real Madrid has enjoyed -and still does – and we start to see a club based on all the wrong foundations. Manchester on the other hand (…) Real Madrid has had some great teams just as United has, but a look under the veneer of it’s success shows a team operating within a very corrupt environment, that has historically given it huge and unfair advantages over it’s domestic rivals, and a team that struggles to measure up to other teams in the modern era – both in terms of success on the field and general management of the club. Of course, the Spanish sun and shit loads of loaned money thrown at other clubs and players will always make ripples in the media and world of professional sport, but clubs like AC Milan, Juventus, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Ajax and now Barcelona – their success in the periods they have been dominant and the way that success has been achieves makes them far better contenders for United’s deserved crown as the Worlds biggest football club, in terms of achievements at least, than Madrid’s ‘false’ golden period. (…)
Comment by: yon arsenal 14/07/2010 @ 09:13: I wont say realmadrid won trophies they bought it …their academy speaks for itself if u look for the last decade.. clearly barca and arsenal are in elite position.
Comment by: Patrick Devaney 14/07/2010 @ 13:30: Real Madrid are # 1 without a shadow of a doubt and Manchester United are a distant second. However, I’m sure if United had banks giving them unlimited non-repayable loans, they would also be able to spend over €220 every summer like Real Madrid. Face it, Real would be nowhere they are today without all that free money they’re getting and since they won 5 European Cups in a row when it nobody else cared about it. They were more concerned with their respective domestic leagues. The 5 cups back then today prove to be a massive achievement since they’ve now won 9 in total but those first 5 were not at all prestigious.

(JIWON: And finally, this is what they officially(?) claim.)

The football debt league – top 10 most indebted clubs Jul 14, 2010 / By soccerlens.com
3. Valencia C.F : £501m
5. Real Madrid : £296m
6. FC Barcelona : £273m
(…) Real Madrid is the second-largest debtor in world football. (…) Their financial worries will hardly damage the club in the long term. Their domestic television contract is by far the richest in the world which stands at just over €1billion with MediaPro and are helped greatly by tax legislation. The fact that Madrid is such an enormous entity in Spain means they are not faced with pressure from banks in order to pay back debts unlike in England and other countries. Their status is formidable with a high political influence.
The power Madrid and Barcelona have in their domestic league is pretty undisputed. Due to the enormity of both clubs their financial predicaments do not face harsh consequences like it does for others.
Valencia has had to sell their star players David Villa and David Silva to help eliminate the risk of being liquidised. They have debts of more than €500 million and were bailed out by the regional Government when they agreed to guarantee a loan of €74 million in August last year. Again this is just heaping more and more high figures into their books resulting in higher interest payments. Los Che is in a real mess and has been for the last few years. The importance of qualifying for the Champions League last season was pivotal in bringing in higher income. (…)

(JIWON: More incomprehensible situation. Hasn’t Mediapro filed for bankruptcy as rights war flares up again?)

Spanish football clubs affected by bankruptcy of Mediapro Jun 19, 2010 / By typicallyspanish.com
(…) Mediapro owes the clubs 300 million € this year, and a similar amount for the 2010-2011 season. … A spokesperson for the Spanish Football League said that they were ‘worried, but not alarmed’.

(JIWON: Doesn’t this country look like a heaven? I believe. ALL the professional footballers and musicians should immigrate into this beautiful country. Entire my life, I’ve NEVER seen a professional situation such as this.)

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Milan President Silvio Berlusconi Warns Spending On Transfers Will Be Limited ‎Jul 15, 2010‎ / By Goal
(…) “In seven years I have spent €427 million of my own money on the club,” Berlusconi told La Stampa. “And then when I look at the balance sheet I feel like fainting.”
Milan’s struggle to get a grip on finances has led to reports of a takeover with both Gazprom and club sponsors Fly Emirates linked with buying Berlusconi’s slice. And the chief jokingly said he would consider a sale. “If they give me €427m, then I will,” he added. But, as the president “who has won more than anyone else,” he is eager to continue at the helm.
La Stampa claims Milan are €10m in the red following the sale of Kaka to Real Madrid last year which allowed the club to bring their accounts towards financial sustainability.

(JIWON: Dear Sir! I need the exact number of your TOTAL spending at AC-Milan since 1986… since you looked undoubtedly handsome so much so that I (provably) didn’t have to use my left-side of brain to watch your shiny face… in order to fall in love with your musically talented facial muscles… hum.)

(… After a huge headache… NO need to post articles about “England-Glazer-Debt”…)
Manchester United fans may snub Aon sponsored shirts Jul 12, 2010
Manchester United football fans urged to boycott shirts Jul 12, 2010

(JIWON: WORKING…)
Chelsea (£736m) and United (£764m) debts at record £1.5bn | Football | The Guardian May 20, 2008 / By guardian.co.uk
Chelsea stay in red despite debt relief – Premier League, Football … Dec 31, 2009 / By independent
Roman Abramovich still owed £726m under complex Chelsea structure May 19, 2010 / By guardian


Champions League? Forget it! Debt-ridden Chelsea, Manchester City and Liverpool could face exclusion in future with UEFA set to ratify new financial fair play rules May 26, 2010 / By dailymail.co.uk

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🙂 Italy-Belcanto > ‘Il Corriere della Grisi’… ‘No Compromise’
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This Writing Was Basically Part Of
🙂 JIWON to ITALY: Therefore, I Went To ‘Il Corriere della Grisi’. Will Italian Leftists Call Me ‘Lega Nord’? I Care Nothing. Diaspora Jews or Arabs? Members of West-Eastern-Divan-Orchestra? I Never Compromise On This Issue (Apr 19 – Jul ?, 2010)

In Case You Want To Read Previous Parts…
🙂 PART-1: Therefore, I went to “Il Corriere della Grisi” (Apr 19, 2010)
🙂 PART-2: From Licia Albanese to Anna Netrebko. From Puccini to Wagner. From Anna Netrebko to Galina Vishnevskaya. From Galina Vishnevskaya to Elena Bashkirova. From Russian Wife to Russian Whore (Apr 22, 2010)
🙂 PART-3: Whose Racism? Berlusconi or Murdoch? Only A Pig Is Seen In The Eyes Of A Pig. Whose Immigration Policy? Berlusconi or Prodi? Am I Opening Pandora’s Box In Italy? (Apr 23 – May 6, 2010)
🙂 PART-4: AC-Milan’s “Catenaccio” & La-Scala’s “Bel-Canto”! When Both Italian Cultures Are Dying… Why Don’t Italian Kids Open The Real Debate After “2010 World Cup”? Let’s Hope Italian Kids Not To Prove La Scala’s German Whore Waltraud Meier’s Arrogant Big Mouth On Italian Stupidity… (May 6 – 13, 2010)
🙂 PART-5: Meanwhile, Eternal Absolutist Berlusconi Had Better Whisper Into His Coach’s Ear Instead Of Yelling Them Via The Media!!! What If AC-Milan Operates Without Murdoch’s Journalism, Whether It Needs To Improve Organizational Culture Or Not? (May 15 – 26, 2010)
🙂 PART-6: AC-Milan Only Have €30M To Spend Compared To Inter’s €100M. UEFA Sets New Rules? What Is The Most Profitable Business For “La Voce dei Rossoneri”, When Both “Football World & Italy” Are On The Brink Of Bankruptcy? (May 28 -Jun 11, 2010)
🙂 PART-7: “World Cup 2010” Starts. Let’s Imagine “Old Screw Silvio’s” Furious Face. Who Says, “Serie A Is Too Defensive And Barcelona Have More Depth Than Inter”? Who Says, “In 80’s & 90’s, There Was A Serie A Supremacy”? (Jun 16 – 18, 2010)
🙂 PART-8: “World Cup 2010” Struggles. Everybody Is Talking About Defense. However, Do All Of Them Look Like “Italian Catenaccio”? The Beauty Of Italian Football. Dear Italy, Produce Another Roberto Baggio! (Jun 21-23, 2010)
🙂 PART-9: “World Cup 2010” Fails. “Lega Nord” Paid Slovakia. Italian Football Without “Alleanza Nazionale”? End Of Story! Blame “Parlamento”, Which “Offensive League” Has Contributed To “The Bankrupt Italy” And “Collapse Of Catenaccio”! It Was The Last Chance To Enjoy “Pura Nazionale Italia”! “Forza ITALIA”!!! (Jun 25 – Jul 5, 2010)
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PART-?a: It All Started With This Italian Troublemaker Jr.

(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT (I now need to record this date, since I find a number of (unexpected) happenings whenever I announce my plan.)

Who Wouldn’t Want Inter Striker Mario Balotelli In Their Team? – Milan’s Mauro Tassotti Jul 7, 2010 / By Goal
Talkbacks for this article 23
Comment-athaus usa / 1:56 AM Jul 8, 2010: as a milan fan i would love to see him come to our side of the city to start he should stay in italy to secure his future for the national team … second he would be a great partner for pato … the two young all stars could be the start of a great partnership but sadly it prob wont happen cause burlisconi is a cheap bitch / [Agree 7 : Disagree 1]

(JIWON: Hum… Doesn’t this posting remind me of German Whore Waltraud Meier or Berlin Staatskapelle Pigs or Spanish WEDO Sh*ts’ hard working (via internet) to blow this computer work?)

Massimo Moratti: “Bring €40 million (£33m) and Balotelli could leave.” Jun2, 2010 / By soccernet.espn
Serie A: Inter will NOT release Balotelli unless for €40M Jun2, 2010 / By Italian Soccer

Berlusconi Jr urges AC Milan to go for Inter firebrand Balotelli Jul 1, 2010 / By Tribalfootball.com

Inter To Sell Balotelli To Real Madrid & Buy Benifca Midfielder – Report Jul 2, 2010 / By Goal
Balotelli Could Join Real Madrid For €70 Million Jul 1, 2010 / Peace FM Online
Balitelli’s Agent is trying to tempt fate… But, when prompted, the sound of money brought him to his feet. “Is he worth €40 million? For me he is worth more than that … Mourinho could ask Perez to invest €70 million in Mario.” (…) Piersilvio Berlusconi said it would be wise for Milan to invest in Balotelli, who supports the rival club, but Agent said the Rossoneri can’t afford him. “It’s nice they have spoken well about Balotelli, but I don’t think Milan are able to buy him, and Inter wouldn’t sell him to them anyway.” (…) Ibrahimovic … “Milan? They missed out on the chance to buy him.” (…)

Milan Like Inter Striker Balotelli Jul 5, 2010 / By Peace FM Online
And, while Moratti said only a good offer would see him sell, Agent likes the Milan idea. But he says there is no rush for Inter to give up their man to their city rivals. “There is nothing new, the conditions regarding Mario leaving Inter depend on the player and club,” Agent told fcinternews.it.

Manchester City Want Inter Striker Balotelli – Agent Jul 6, 2010 / By Goal
Manchester duo chase Balotelli Jul 9, 2010 / By soccerway.com
Chelsea join United and City in Serie ‘A’ striker race Balotelli Jul 14, 2010 / By givemefootball.com

(JIWON: Agent is busy. Weird that this businessman has suddenly stop mentioning Berlusconi since… (… too tired to check previous writings…) Then, he went to “Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio” instead. Isn’t the same agent, who openly questioned Barca Coach’s sanity? Weird that his criticism is not equally valued as Moggi: Abete should resign (Jul 16, 2010).)

Barca bite back at Ibrahimovic agent criticisms Jun 1, 2010 / By Reuters
Barcelona warned Ibrahimovic’s agent that further criticisms of the club could result in them seeking an exit for the striker. (…) reacting to quotes from an interview Agent gave when he said Barca coach “would need to go to a mental hospital,” if he was considering off-loading (…)

Inter Starlet Mario Balotelli No Longer With The Italian Players Association (AIC) – Agent Jul 12, 2010 / By Goal
(…) “We decided not to enroll in the AIC anymore, we don’t recognize ourselves as part of that organization,” Agent explained to Radio Radio. “The motivation for this is based on the management of recent events that were scandalous, not least regarding immigrants. [FIGC president Giancarlo] Abete should resign.” It would seem to be a move that indicates the teenager could be headed for an experience abroad, but Agent insists that is not necessarily true. (…)

(JIWON: Weird that I hardly find comments-regarding-immigrants whenever I read articles on this agent or his players. Weird, too, that this agent sounds different or very-cautious or even-polite when other-than-Berlusconi is considered as his future business partner. How many players does this agent have? Does it work for Inter? How come the problem players are represented by this agent? Or is it this agent that is always getting his business-items into trouble with media or clubs or fans…?)

Italian Players Association Tell Inter & Juventus To Calm Down Dec 11, 2009 / By livescoressoccer9.com
The Italian Players Association (AIC) have lobbied Serie A teams to calm down and show their professionalism following a number of sour incidents on pitches around the peninsula took place last week. The calls come less than a week after the heated Derby d’Italia between Juventus and Inter in Turin. Jose Mourinho’s clapping, tough tackles and a spat between Thiago Motta and Gianluigi Buffon have caused concern among the authorities. AIC president Sergio Campana has now appealed against sour incidents, claiming they tarnish the image of Calcio as he urges fair play. Campana has attempted to encourage players to change their rough and tumble ways.
“There were players last week who behaved badly and they did not live up to their professional image,” he told the press. “Too many protests, fouls and arguments negatively characterised what should have been a sporting spectacular. The footballers need to take on more responsibilty in relation to their clubs, the fans and children. We hope that they can return to being protagonists as they represent those who believe in the value of sport.”

Italian FA & Players Association Send Mixed Messages Over New Calciopoli Apr 8, 2010 / By Goal
(…) FIGC (Italian FA) president Giancarlo Abete has promised a review of the 2006 Calciopoli trial following new allegations … The new revelations from Naples allege that Inter president Massimo Moratti had spoken to the then referee designator Paolo Bergamo. However, president of the AIC (Italian Footballers Association), Sergio Campana, feels a new investigation into Calciopoli will not take off. “Nothing has been opened. A new Calciopoli? Please…” he told the press.

Inter President Massimo Moratti & Genoa Patron Enrico Preziosi Punished For Diego Milito Deal Jul 9, 2010 / By Goal
Inter president Moratti given three-month ban from running the club Jul 10, 2010 / By timesofindia
(…) The big-spending Genoa owner has largely ignored the bans and carried on his business knowing the federation would struggle to enforce the suspension and the only further punishment he would receive would be extended bans. The situation is likely to be the same with Moratti, who can delegate some responsibilities to deputies but remains the de facto club president given the federation can do little to limit his private activity. (…)

Inter CEO Opens Door As Inter Striker Mario Balotelli Will Boycott Serie A Because Of Limits On Foreign Players Jul 15, 2010 / By Goal
(…) “If [Giancarlo] Abete quits, then maybe Balotelli will remain in Italy. The heads of the Italian Players Association (AIC) must also resign,” Agent told the press as reported by Il Corriere dello Sport. “The laws on foreign quotas are a scandal. It damages Italian football.” (…) Manchester duo are likely to have Agent’s ear following his announcement. With the emphasis on leaving, Nerazzurri CEO feels this is a chance to gain an advantage and profit on Balotelli’s transfer – €40million is the unconfirmed fee.

Inter CEO Opens Door As Inter Striker Mario Balotelli Will Boycott Serie A Because Of Limits On Foreign Players Jul 15, 2010 / By Goal
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Comment-rob sydney / 5:56 PM Jul 15, 2010: this kid’s agent is taking him for a ride…big time / [Agree 15 : Disagree 0]
Comment-Jeff London / 5:05 PM Jul 15, 2010: This is another way of saying, Balotelli will play for Ghana rather than italy. / [Agree 8 : Disagree 7]
Comment-carlo london / 3:51 PM Jul 15, 2010: isn’t balotelli italian so why would he have 2 go because of da quota / [Agree 4 : Disagree 0]
Comment-Sami Bahrain / 3:12 PM Jul 15, 2010: this agent is worse than balotelli he looks for trouble.. / [Agree 1 : Disagree 0]
Comment-WIN SYDNEY / 3:42 PM Jul 15, 2010: i just don’t get it.. what is cit got to do him??? / [Agree 9 : Disagree 1]

(JIWON: I also realize that Italy is where both INTER and this agent can find themselves above Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio. (…well, this is never my cynical criticism against Mr. Moratti. I used to be awestruck by his divine power. By the same token, I still think Mrs. Moratti, Mayor of Milan or President of La Scala, is a unique lady, who just possesses NO ears to detect the guardians of Italian “Bel-Canto”. By the same token, I don’t think her dignity will be easily threatened by her junior rivals, since I find the rest of female politicians also boast NO ears. Usually, sensitive females are found in the kitchen quickly losing all their musical muscles while cooking for male chauvinists, alas…) Anyway…

Whether this agent works for INTER or not,
I kind of understand why this boy … hum-what-do-i-say… AC-Milan. (Of course, I feel very sorry for Mr. Moratti on this issue. I feel sorry because I couldn’t help laughing while imagining Mr. Moratti’s furious face on this issue. I feel sorry more because I burst out laughing when I finally(?!) realized Mr. Moratti’s favorite style. Sorry…)

I laughed when ‘The Brat’ passes (high school) exam as Blues set for mega bid, ho-ho. It was one of the funniest stuffs to read during this computer work. Isn’t it easy to imagine this boy’s frustrated face during the exam? I laughed more when I read that his fellow defender edged him for grades. (Just 2 points, though). I couldn’t stop laughing when this boy was so happy that he now wanted to go to university. (… a pure laughter, please…) Then, I wonder again. Isn’t this agent that is treating his young player a black immigrant slave, who is valuable only when he makes money for his company? Weird that no other Italian clubs but AC-Milan express concern or strong interest while this agent encourages or even-maneuvers this teenager or so-called genius’ childish behaviors.)

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Inter striker Balotelli passes (high) school exams. Congratulations Mario 🙂
Talkbacks for this article 9
Comment-Giuseppe Italy / 18:43 14 Jul 2010: Wow all of your comments are retarded! he wants an education just in case he has a career ending injury… a footballer can only play til about 35 as a striker so he is being smart. / [Agree 7 : Disagree 1]
Comment-ds USA / 16:14 14 Jul 2010: I’m all for education but he could make more injured in England in one season at United than he would in an entire 30 year career doing accounting in Italy. Non-story made up of nothing. / [Agree 12 : Disagree 1]

(JIWON: I saved the second comment, since it sounded so weird. Let’s just hope, “just in case” he starts his international journey, that ‘This Italian Brat’, who passed (high school) exam as Blues set for mega bid, could take care of his professional life in a healthier way and prepare his future in a more effective way and join the Italian National Team as a mature human being. Of course, I cancel this part if Mr. Moratti takes advantage of this computer work and enjoys a sudden loyalty from “This Italian Brat”. Not only I don’t give words of blessing to the INTER’s players, ho-ho, I also don’t think there will be any changes in the Italian atmosphere around this boy.)

Who Wouldn’t Want Inter Striker Mario Balotelli In Their Team? – Milan’s Mauro Tassotti Jul 7, 2010 / By Goal
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Comment-athaus usa / 1:56 AM Jul 8, 2010: as a milan fan i would love to see (…) but sadly it prob wont happen cause burlisconi is a cheap bitch / [Agree 7 : Disagree 1]

Calcio Debate: Cash-Strapped Milan Need Transfer Market Magic To Make Champions League Cut Jul 13, 2010 / By Goal
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Comment-Louis USA / 10:49 AM Jul 13, 2010: Berlusconi is practicing at destroying AC Milan so he can then finish off Italy. / [Agree 29 : Disagree 4]
Comment-soren denmark / 10:58 AM Jul 13, 2010: I am a big rossonerofan. I think your article is one of the best analyzes I have read about the team. We are in big trouble and nothing is going to change as long as Silvio and Galliani are running the business. / [Agree 55 : Disagree 3]
Comment-neil interista / 11:57 AM Jul 13, 2010: The only real solution is A NEW OWNER! but it doesn’t look like Berlusconi wants to sell anytime soon which is bad news for Milan fans and Serie-A in general! / [Agree 78 : Disagree 9]

(JIWON: Now, this is for the AC-Milan management. My decade-long computer work, along with my instinct, tells me that…)

1. Don’t these IDs look familiar? Please check other comments. Some of them sounds more harsh, but they include valuable points. This is a pure vicious slander, which serves a clear purpose. If you think of AC-Milan’s case only, I am paranoid. However, if you check the general atmosphere of “Football World In Debt”, and if you scan other comments in other clubs’ articles, this is something unique. I strictly recommend them to investigate these IDs. Who knows? There may exist “Big Shots” involved in those hard workings.

2. In case this kind of comment is manipulated by “The Agent”, AC-Milan had better break off business connections with this company. The football players will soon find a better agent, if they really want to join AC-Milan and other Italian clubs. Aren’t the Fan Club’s opinions identical when it comes to this issue? (… WORKING… this sentence will appear once Mr. Moratti gets his deal done…)

3. Weird that Berlusconi Jr. from his second marriage is not honored any more whenever the Fan Club is united to insult Berlusconi Sr. or Berlusconi Jr. from his first marriage. This name has disappeared since… (… too tired to check the date of previous writing or draft…) I kept reading that Berlusconi Jr. from his first marriage echo their father’s intention and follow his business-plan, and as far as I know, Berlusconi Jr. from his second marriage is not yet (actually) involved in the professional business. How come they know that this young Berlusconi promised a BIG spending and would/could make AC-Milan a profitable business?

4. After finishing “The Spanish Part” on this issue, I now suspect… (… this part will appear when all the writings are done…)

5. I’m now surprised to know that Gian Luigi Longinotti-Buitoni, the CEO of Goal.com, is an Italian businessman. What is his reason of founding this Soccer-Media? What is his exact opinion about Sir or Dictator Berlusconi? Is the Founder of Soccer-Media waiting for his least favorite politician to sell AC-Milan and fail in his life? What is his vision about “Football World On Brink Of Bankruptcy”? After finishing Spanish part, it was easy to figure out the reason of “La Lega si ribella alla Figc (Jul 15, 2010)”. Though I still wonder why foreign players could cost less than domestic youngsters. I am sure that he knows that Italian football is a unique phenomenon. In this situation, however, Italy has no option but to copy the Spanish version, if all the football journalisms are steering public opinion in this way. It means… Not only Berlusconi’s AC-Milan should be supported by Government, but also the entire Serie-A will soon have to collapse, except Padanian Team, which of course should be benefited by bla-bla-bla.

(JIWON: Therefore, I wanted to do some work to prepare “Just In Case” those same Italian kids, whether they are No.1 or No.2 or No.3 or No.4 or No.5, insult Sir Berlusconi and his AC-Milan on this issue. To my surprise, below is what I found, instead. Speechless…)

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PART-?b: Who Says That “The Spend More Than You Earn Culture In Football” Started In Spain?

(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT
(Updated on JULY 19, 2010)

Manchester duo chase Balotelli Jul 9, 2010 / By soccerway.com
Balotelli Could Join Real Madrid For €70 Million. Agent Claims Berlusconi Can’t Afford… Jul 1, 2010 / Peace FM Online

Spanish Giants Plan £110m Swoop For England Pair Jun 16, 2010 / By Bleacher Report
Chelsea to offer £50m for X Jun 17, 2010 / By NewsInternational

(JIWON: Interesting is that the price was going up. The same goes for the Spanish club, which is willing to meet INTER’s high demand. They are also talking about other business. But then… Aren’t England and Spain the countries that are just required to unveil ‘unavoidable’ austerity budget?)

Roma set for new owners Jul 9, 2010 / By breakingnews.ie
(…) Roma have been the subject of takeover talk for more than three years, but the Sensi family has been unable to offload its stake in the club.

Le Opinioni di Goal La Vs Opinione (Proto Romano) – Roma non ha più le risorse per sostenere due squadre, è arrivato il momento di FONDERLE per sfidare il potere economico! Jul 9, 2010 / By Goal
The Vs Review (Proto Romano) – Rome no longer has the resources to support two teams, it’s time to fund challenge the economic power!

(JIWON: The whole Italy is already in a mess, and who is to blame for this situation? In Italy, football clubs are no exception. Why in the world the England and Spanish football clubs can afford…? Is the football world free from any financial troubles? Therefore, I started this work. Of course, I knew NOTHING when I started this research.)

(… After a huge headache… NO need to post articles about “England-Glazer-Debt”…)

United – Sell to Buy? Jul 1, 2010 / By manchesterunited.vitalfootball.co.uk
(…) The rumour goes on to imply that to buy PlayerX United would have to sell first to rise cash. Quite puzzling when you recall that only last week Sir Man-Utd. was praising the Glazer brothers for not refusing any of his demands to sign players. Has the tide turned or is just newspaper innuendo? (…)

Sir Manchester United talks up his youngsters… but he HAS to play them as cash is so tight Jul 19, 2010 / By dailymail
(…) It has become a familiar message. For the second summer in a row he insists there is no value in the transfer market. No reason to spend unwisely or waste the £80million which is supposedly still in the bank following the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo. But has Sir Man-Utd. really chosen to be much more prudent or is there no money left as the club creak under the weight of debt heaped on it by the Glazer family? This, after all, is a manager who has broken the British transfer record six times, who decided (…)

Sir Manchester United talks up his youngsters… but he HAS to play them as cash is so tight Jul 19, 2010 / By dailymail
(…) Premier League history suggests clubs who spend the most usually succeed. Blackburn did it with Jack Walker, Chelsea with Roman Abramovich, and now City are making their bid. It is 15 years since Sir Man-Utd. bucked the trend, pitching United’s new golden generation into the spotlight and reaping instant rewards. The question now is (…)

(JIWON: Yet, they still say that those who spend the most will succeed. And this time… which club? And finally… how many hours did it take for me to find this article?)

English Football’s Debt Crisis: Hard times ahead Jun 11, 2010 / By betting.betfair.com
Debt within English football has risen to alarming levels. A conservative estimate shows these debts to be around £3.65bn – more than the rest of Europe put together. Premier League clubs owe four times more than their La Liga counterparts (the next worst division) and, although the assets of the Premier League are £3.8bn, negative equity threatens!
In recent years English football has enjoyed massive foreign investment albeit with a proviso to succeed. But these investors have discarded their sound business sense and encouraged inflated transfer fees and wages to a point where they can no longer be sustained.
The ‘spend more than you earn culture in football’ started in Spain with Real Madrid’s direct and cosy relationship with the Spanish government. (…) UEFA-report acknowledged that much of the English debt is linked to the leveraged take-overs (the use of debt to supplement investment) by the Glazer family at Manchester United and the Hicks/Gillett buy-out of Liverpool. (…) Whilst UEFA has been vocal in condemning clubs which accumulate big debts, the Premier League and Football Association remain curiously silent. The situation is so grave that government intervention may be required. (…) One senses that the debt story concerning Manchester United has further to run and there could be real carnage ahead. Only the most blinkered and loyal supporter would consider backing United for next season’s Premier Legue at present. (…)

English Football League gates best in 50 years Jul 15, 2010 / By timesofmalta.com
(…) English Football League … A total of 17.1 million spectators attended the 1,656 Football League matches − an increase of 4.4% on last season and the highest aggregate crowd figure since the 1959-60 campaign. (…)

(JIWON: Therefore, I went to the Spanish sites. Still weird is that the rest of British football clubs seem to have a GREAT financial standing, in spite of their claim that “The Spend More Than You Earn Culture In Football” started in Spain.)

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PART-?c: In Spain, Where Only RealMadird & Barcelona Have Been Safe, The Combined Debt Of Spanish Clubs Was About 3 Billion Euros.

(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT
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Spanish football debt mounting as recession looms Nov 19, 2008 / By independent
(…) Real Madrid and Barcelona are largely insulated from the financial crisis, analysts and officials say. But lower down the league at least six clubs are in administration and more may follow as the recession takes hold. (…) According to an estimate in the Spanish media, the combined debt of Spanish clubs is about 3 billion euros ($3.8 billion), compared with some 3 billion pounds ($4.51 billion) in the English Premier League. (…)

Spanish football facing ‘financial disaster’ Apr 21, 2009 / By independent
(…) The comments come as many small and mid-sized clubs face the real prospect of bankruptcy and are struggling to cope with surging wage and transfer costs amid Spain’s worst recession in at least half a century. Valencia, twice a Champions League finalist in the past decade, have admitted they may have to sell some of their best players and have been forced to delay the payment of wages and halt construction on a new stadium. (…)
The world of football is not immune to the general economic situation,” Izco said. (…)
The majority of Spain’s professional clubs are run as so-called sociedades anonimas deportivas (SADs), or sporting limited companies. But a handful, like Osasuna, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao, are still run as sports clubs, with thousands of members (socios) as owners rather than a small group of shareholders.
Spanish government officials have criticized the SADs for what they say is abuse of insolvency laws, where clubs start bankruptcy proceedings to cut their debt level and then continue living beyond their means and slip back into the red.
Izco said the SAD model needed to be overhauled and urged soccer authorities to introduce financial controls to force clubs to rein in spending. “As a model, the SAD is sound but it has not worked for the clubs and has not achieved the objective it was meant to,” he said. “Systems of financial safeguards must be established which genuinely control football and make it function properly.”

(JIWON: They say that “so-called sociedades anonimas deportivas (SADs)” are the cause of trouble. And that there is NO problem with RealMadrid or Barcelona.)

Soccer odds on Barcelona going bankrupt? Jul 7, 2010 / By bookmakersinc.com
The president of the club, Sandro Rosell, announced that Barcelona had failed to pay its players for the month of June. When he took over the club it had already been in financial trouble and also told reporters that the club had secured a £125m loan in order to pay those wages. Soccer betting on Barcelona is among the favorites in all Europe. (…) Rosell has gone on various media channels to reassure fans that the club’s debt problems are under control … But technically it’s been 50m euros for possible players plus … Does it smell like bankruptcy? Someone out there’s gotta have these soccer odds soccer odds.

Barcelona Fail To Pay Players (at the end of June) Jul 8, 2010 / By
(…) The new president Rosell maintained that despite the financial troubles, they could still afford to buy … However the news will do little to inspire confidence in an increasingly fragile footballing world which has seen clubs in England go bust, face Court action over unpaid debt and face administration. (…)

Barcelona’s claim that they are skint, simply doesn’t add up Jul 9, 2010 / By dailymail
(…) What is unknown is the true state of Barcelona’s finances. The contradictory nature of much of the information makes it a task of deciphering. (…) Part of Rosell’s out-of-the-blue statement about Barca’s need for short-term cover related to the television deal … As British football knows from the ITV Digital collapse in 2002, future income based on television deals can be devastating. (…) Barca’s popularity worldwide. But on a daily basis in Spain, Barca and Real stories are set against a national recession that perhaps only Greece in Europe can rival. … Unemployment is 20% and, for 16 to 24-year-olds, close to 40%. As anyone who has been to Barcelona airport lately can confirm, this most modern of destination shopping centres is now a ghost mall. (…)

(JIWON: Please look. They or Barcelona at least, were already in financial trouble. What’s more, they are talking about something more.)

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PART-?d: RealMadrid & Barcelona Dominate La-Liga Because They Negotiate Their Own TV Deals. They Rake In Half Their Income From Audiovisual Rights. Has La-Liga Become The Best In Europe? The Evidence Was Two-Fold…

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Alarm for Spain over debt pain May 20, 2010 / By thestandard.com.hk
As Spain’s government grapples with its own yawning budget deficit, the finances of the country’s top football clubs continue to spiral out of control. The 20 La Liga clubs had combined debt of 3.526 billion euros in 2008-09, up from 3.49 billion euros the previous season … Only La Liga giants Real Madrid and Barcelona … made an operating profit. (…)
Real and Barca dominate La Liga because they negotiate their own TV deals. They raked in HALF THEIR INCOME of 560 million euros from audiovisual rights last season. Gay suggested this would have to change if the league wanted to prevent financial meltdown and avoid turning into a “Scottish-style” competition where two teams – Celtic and Rangers – dominate the sporting and economic arenas.
Champions Barca compiled a record 99 points this season, while Real, who spent 250 million euros on players before the start of the campaign, were second on 96 with Valencia 25 points further back in third. “Who can win the league? The answer is obvious: Barca or Madrid. Nobody else,” Gay said.
Real and Barca have come under pressure to relinquish their stranglehold over TV cash and adopt the system in rival European leagues where money is shared, but they fear this would make them less competitive in Europe. “Barca and Madrid will have to make an effort, sacrificing today so that the league can flourish,” Gay said. “If this does not happen, the league will be in its death throes.” (…)

Domination by Barcelona and Real Madrid making Spain the new Scotland Mar 28, 2010 / By Guardian
La Liga claims to be the best league in the world, but beneath the glitz of the big two and lies a very different picture. (…) The-Beckham-Law … Beckham was the first beneficiary of the new rate, hence the informal name. Or rather Real Madrid were, as he had agreed a net salary. … The best players in England, Italy and France had departed for Spain. More than €455m had been spent by Spanish clubs on transfers – a 72% increase, more than any other country. Ever. (…)
Not only due to the Beckham Law, because beneath the glistening surface Spanish football is in crisis … The €455m transfer spend disguises a troubling reality. Last year, despite winning the treble, Barcelona made only €8.8m and have a debt of €350m. Madrid signed €258m worth of players but only after their president, Florentino Pérez, turned to two friends who are both presidents of banks and who loaned Madrid €151.5m.
The argument is that their debts are serviceable. In fact, Pérez insists that high expenditure is necessary to generate money and Madrid have become the first club to take income beyond €400m. But doubts remain; costs outstrip income, shirt sales are lower than those of Liverpool and Chelsea; Bernabéu attendances are down 7%; and the debt stands at €683m. Publicly, Pérez insists: “Madrid must always remain a club owned by its members.” Privately, the possibility of becoming a plc has been discussed.
But would that solve anything? The evidence suggests not
. In the early 1990s, a new law obliged every club to become a plc, with four exceptions – Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao and Osasuna, who were given special exemptions for socio-cultural reasons. Shares were issued and the slate wiped clean. It was supposed to be a panacea. The theory was simple: presidents would be more careful risking their own money. They were not. Often their fans would not let them. … So he spent money he did not have. Only 8% of what football clubs spend on average can be covered by liquid assets. (…)

(JIWON: What does “PLC” mean? Does it mean “so-called sociedades anonimas deportivas (SADs)”? Didn’t the Spanish official claim that “SADs” are the cause of trouble and that there is NO problem with RealMadrid or Barcelona? )

Domination by Barcelona and Real Madrid making Spain the new Scotland Mar 28, 2010 / By Guardian
(…) Look back over the clubs who have competed in the Champions League recently and the situation is alarming: Valencia’s debt is more than €600m. Like Real Madrid (who sold the their training ground for €447m to the council in 2001, wiping out their €278m debt), a property deal was supposed to be their salvation. However, the market crashed at just the wrong time. Now Valencia have two stadiums – one they cannot sell and another they cannot afford to finish building. According to the third largest shareholder at Atlético Madrid, their debt is above €300m. … In all, Gay calculates Spanish football’s debt to be €3.5bn. (…)
The federal nature of the Spanish state, made up of autonomous communities, also offers a crutch upon which to lean. Madrid, Barcelona and Sevilla have all benefited from favourable property deals involving their local councils … Valencia have been propped up by Bancaja, a savings bank … As one director of another savings bank puts it: “Clubs have an emotional power they use as a kind of blackmail.” … Whether or not clubs go into administration, they can never compete with the big two. Remove Madrid and Barcelona and there was a 40% decrease in summer spending. Only five clubs spent over €5m. … But how can you ignore Madrid and Barcelona? They are La Liga. That is the problem.
According to reliable statistics Madrid have 13.2m fans while Barcelona have 10.4m. Valencia are third with 2.1m. Nearly two-thirds of all football fans in Spain support one of the big two. And supporters of other clubs almost invariably choose Madrid or Barcelona as a “second” team. The Madrid-Barça dichotomy is self-perpetuating. The media insist they are giving people what they want, that theirs is a business decision. (…)
The dominance is felt most on TV – and that is the crux of the issue, the precarious foundation upon which Spanish football is built. Unlike elsewhere – and even Italy is going collective – Spanish clubs negotiate individual television deals. … Madrid & Barcelona earn €120m … Sevilla earn €20m … Right throughout the league, the imbalance is extraordinary. Competing is impossible. (…)

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Domination by Barcelona and Real Madrid making Spain the new Scotland Mar 28, 2010 / By Guardian
(…) One headline in Spain recently declared: “La Liga becomes the best in Europe.” The “evidence” was two-fold: Madrid and Barcelona’s place at the head of Deloitte & Touche’s rich list; and the “big two” racking up more points than any other team in Europe. A closer read suggests the exact opposite. Madrid and Barcelona were at the top but there was not one other Spanish club among the leading 20 and their points totals – a record at both clubs – suggest that while they are good sides, maybe the teams they are playing against are not. Valencia, third going into this weekend, were 18 points behind. No other major league has such a gap.
“We need to recognise that the smaller clubs are necessary for the competition,” says Roig. … Some of his counterparts believe it is already too late. (…)

(JIWON: Interestingly enough, the story didn’t end here…)

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(Updated on JULY 14, 2010) – DRAFT
(Updated on JULY 20, 2010)

The football debt league – top 10 most indebted clubs Jul 11, 2010
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Barcelona To Take Measures To Quell Financial Debt – Report Jul 15, 2010 / By Goal
Barcelona Secure €155 Million Credit Loan Jul 14, 2010 / By Goal
Comment-Mark Madridista / 10:56 PM Jul 14, 2010: This is why i hate barca. they keep on criticizing real madrid for spending and loaning when they do exactly the same thing. they have this fake concept of developing youth players but in all actuality this only happened recently. when you look at barca’s history, both the 1992 and 2006 CL titles were won with mostly foreign players. madrid in 1966 won the european cup with all spanish players, majority of the team coming from the youth system. [Agree 9 : Disagree 4]
Comment-vivaa spain / 7:30 PM Jul 14, 2010: Barca are becoming like madrid, dont like it!! [Agree 2 : Disagree 2]
Comment-brendan usa / 7:18 PM Jul 14, 2010: i hope barca fans are as quick to criticize themselves as they were to criticize real madris last summer. i bet they wont be. [Agree 5 : Disagree 2]
Comment-lucifer milano / 7:48 PM Jul 14, 2010: this is sick spain suffer economically and have such debt and two club spend money they don’t have barca cant even pay their players wages sick sick sick [Agree 6 : Disagree 0]
Comment-Peter Dublin / 6:44 PM Jul 14, 2010: What a joke of a club. Despite all their success of the last few years and still they have huge debts. [Agree 3 : Disagree 2]

Thread: Are Real Madrid in any debt? May 12, 2010 / By manutdtalk.com
Comment-Jock_Stein / 12-05-2010 12:13 PM: I thought they were up to their necks in it but according to the media, they are in for another summer of huge spending. I asked this question on another forum but no-one was really sure.
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 12:57 PM: all i know is that ‘debt’ doesnt really have the same meaning for real as it does for other clubs…
Comment-Comment-sweet fa / 12-05-2010 13:26 PM: at real the banks and government back them and waive debts that would kill any other club , in reality their the most in debt club on the planet but are constantly bailed out.
Comment-Jock_Stein / 12-05-2010 13:40 PM: read of numbers being thrown about that Real Madrid were around £800 million in debt & if they are getting paid off by the Government or large banks it hardly seems fair to every other team in La Liga.
Comment-Carlo / 12-05-2010 13:44 PM: That’s the way it works in Spain though, backhanders everywhere, it’s probably now the most corrupt government/country in Europe. The way Real is run is a joke, it is completely unfair on every other team in the world, let alone in Spain. Dodgy land deals, non payable loans, interest free loans and cash injections from the Gvt/Banks, it shouldn’t be allowed, full stop
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 13:45 PM: in that article i posted it states that barca are in 350m euro’s of debt… but you never ever ever hear that mentioned in relation to europes most devine and pure club!
Comment-ClamBuster / 12-05-2010 13:48 PM: and platini and blatter will never do a thing… at least in england our borrowing is ‘traditional borrowing’ as in ‘traditional loans’ and ‘traditional financial agreements’… and it is all visible on accounts.
Comment-lucretius / 12-05-2010 13:59 PM: the simple answer to the question is that, yes, they are in debt, but the debt they have accrued is mostly in interest-free loans with no fixed repayments. the specifics are a little more complicated, but as carlo mentioned there’s a plethora of dodgy dealings
Comment-PeeJay / 12-05-2010 14:11 PM: There’s nothing dodgy about Real Madrid’s debt. They’re a non-profit organization and are loaned money by some similarly non-profit banks, which equates to low interest rates which can be restructured with relative ease. Oh and as for Spain’s corruption, XZY are much more corrupt, to name a few.
Comment-RN10 / 12-05-2010 14:40 PM: Am i not right in saying the royal family of spain have something to do with real madrid aswell thats why they allways get bailed out of the 100’s of millions of debt they rack up?
Comment-ClamBuster / 13-05-2010 08:13 PM: cheers brother..
But for anyone that cant be bothered to read it all:
Real – 683m euro’s in debt
Barca – 350m euro’s in debt
Spanish football – 3.5bn euro’s in debt
Unpaid wages in spanish football stands at 100m euro’s

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Manchester United v Real Madrid – which is the bigger club and why? Jul 14, 2010 / By soccerlens.com
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Comment by: dogbreath 14/07/2010 @ 07:53:
Measured by the amount of debt a club can sustain, United is the biggest club in the world. Measured by the intelligence and sweet disposition of its manager, United is the biggest club in the world. Measured by decades of corrupt interference in its own league in its favour by a brutal dictator, RM is the biggest club in the world.
Comment by: wiuru 14/07/2010 @ 08:13:
In the current climate RM hold all the cards im a UTD fan and believe there isnt a level playing field on which to judge this. Tax Breaks, Government and Backing of financial institutions keep Rm at the top of the heap. Barca in football terms lead.
Comment by: Abhay 14/07/2010 @ 08:14:
Greatness is the sum total of a club’s football and other activities. Real may have won countless trophies, but ones who think they did by only fair means are kidding themselves. Real aren’t even the “greatest” team in Spain, let alone the world. The cruelties mounted by Franco against a club like Barcelona during his reign are proof that Madrid never won a single trophy in the pre-80’s era through fair means. … By contrast, United have been victims of tragedies like the WWII bombings … The fact of the matter is, Madrid will always be known as the playground of superstars, but home is where the heart is, and Madrid will never compare to this: United, home to- XYZ, et al. Madrid, home to- err… Raul?!
Comment by: Mico 14/07/2010 @ 08:52:
To dismiss Manchester United’s claims for being the biggest team in the World is to be ignorant of all the facts. Real Madrid is a team that has forged it’s history in a ‘Scottish’ type league with no real contenders outside of Barcelona, and through a sequence of wins in the old European Cup that hides the fact that the teams involved at that very early point in the competitions history were not actually the big teams of Europe. Add to this the unbelievable ‘bank rolling’ Real Madrid has enjoyed -and still does – and we start to see a club based on all the wrong foundations. Manchester on the other hand (…) Real Madrid has had some great teams just as United has, but a look under the veneer of it’s success shows a team operating within a very corrupt environment, that has historically given it huge and unfair advantages over it’s domestic rivals, and a team that struggles to measure up to other teams in the modern era – both in terms of success on the field and general management of the club. Of course, the Spanish sun and shit loads of loaned money thrown at other clubs and players will always make ripples in the media and world of professional sport, but clubs like AC Milan, Juventus, Inter Milan, Bayern Munich, Liverpool, Ajax and now Barcelona – their success in the periods they have been dominant and the way that success has been achieves makes them far better contenders for United’s deserved crown as the Worlds biggest football club, in terms of achievements at least, than Madrid’s ‘false’ golden period. (…)
Comment by: yon arsenal 14/07/2010 @ 09:13:
I wont say realmadrid won trophies they bought it …their academy speaks for itself if u look for the last decade.. clearly barca and arsenal are in elite position.
Comment by: Patrick Devaney 14/07/2010 @ 13:30:
Real Madrid are # 1 without a shadow of a doubt and Manchester United are a distant second. However, I’m sure if United had banks giving them unlimited non-repayable loans, they would also be able to spend over €220 every summer like Real Madrid. Face it, Real would be nowhere they are today without all that free money they’re getting and since they won 5 European Cups in a row when it nobody else cared about it. They were more concerned with their respective domestic leagues. The 5 cups back then today prove to be a massive achievement since they’ve now won 9 in total but those first 5 were not at all prestigious.

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Spain’s Cup joy gives relief from economic woes ‎Jul 8, 2010‎
Spain’s football success helps erase economic woes
It’s fiesta time in Spain after World Cup win Jul 12, 2010

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World Cup seals Spain’s sports superpower status Jul 12, 2010
However, most of the above were in their prime before Spain embarked on its construction-driven economic boom in the mid-1990s. The corresponding investment in the country’s sports facilities has led to unprecedented success.
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English Football League gates best in 50 years Jul 15, 2010
(…) English Football League … A total of 17.1 million spectators attended the 1,656 Football League matches − an increase of 4.4% on last season and the highest aggregate crowd figure since the 1959-60 campaign. (…) Championship (9.9 million) … Only Germany’s Bundesliga (13.1m with population 81,757,600), the Premier League (12.9m with population 51,446,000) and Spain’s La Liga (11.0m with population 46,030,109) boast better attendances with the Football League’s top division alone attracting more supporters than Italy’s Serie A (9.1m with popultaion 60,231,214 including Padania, 33,757,031) and France’s Ligue 1 (7.6m). (…)

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
The Number Of Football Players: Indeed Germany has almost four times as many football players than either England, France or Italy:
1. Germany | 16,308,946 (with population 82 million)
2. France | 4,190,040 (with population 65 million)
3. Italy | 4,980,296 (with population 60 million)
4. England | 4,164,110 (with population around 51 million)
5. Spain | ?,???,??? (with population around 46 million)
6. Netherlands | 1,700,000 (with population 16 million)

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
Grassroots Coaching: According to UEFA, “there are … coaches holding Uefa’s B, A and Pro badges, its top qualifications.” (Source: The Guardian).
1. Germany | 34,970
2. France | 17,588
3. Italy | 29,420
4. England | 2,769
5. Spain | 23,995

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
(…) In France the municipal government funds professional football coaches to work with all the junior clubs in their local area. In Spain every town and village has a centrally-funded deportivo (literally, sports club) where young people can play football, basketball, tennis, volleyball and more under the supervision of highly trained coaches. (…) Grassroots coach education needs to see a massive increase in funding. When you raise the base of a pyramid the peak gets higher too. But, unfortunately, without incentives to get qualified, very few grassroots coaches are willing to fork out their own money and take time off work to get their coaching badges.

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
Academy Coaching: (…) the most talented players in the grassroots game are invited to train at a local professional club’s Academy or Centre of Excellence. … highlights the recurring number of 10,000 hours which world-class performers seem to have clocked-up during their developmental years. Time and again, the amount of quality practice is seen to be more critical in distinguishing top performers than any other factor of wealth, genetics or ‘natural talent’.
1. Germany | Bayer Leverkusen are training their youth players for 18 hours a week.
2. France | ?
3. Italy | ?
4. England | Once you’re in an academy there won’t be much playing it.
5. Spain | ?
6. Netherlands | Ajax see their players every day.
7. Brazil | 3000 professionals live at their clubs, eating, sleeping, learning and – crucially – training with their teammates every day of the week.

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
First Team Opportunities: (…) these figures offer a snapshot of the English Premier League as the world’s wealthiest division, whose clubs can take their pick of the world’s talent. The question needs to be why are the foreign players being picked ahead of their English equivalents? (…) (Source: Soccer Europe)
1. Germany | 50%
2. France | 34%
3. Italy | 30%
4. England | 59%
5. Spain | 38%
6. Netherlands | 39%

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
First Team Opportunities: (…) There’s little doubt that clubs would love to bring local players through their academies and into their first teams. … But there seems to be a repeated failure to graduate all but the most exceptional youth players, and there is good reason to believe that the limited options for 18-21 year old footballers is one reason for this. Whilst the brain is almost completely developed by the end of high school, the body can continue to mature until 22 (or even older). Unfortunately an under-developed 18 year old has very few options at the end of his youth career. If he isn’t left to rot in the awful reserve league with the old and the lame, he might find himself shipped out to the awful lower leagues (with the old and the lame).
There, everything he’s been taught about ball retention, running at defenders and imaginative play will be kicked out of him by his resentful opponents or bullied out of him by his manager – panic-stricken at the thought of a relegation battle that could see his club go bust.
Perhaps, instead there’s a role for a dedicated U21 league (tied into University football so that the kids that don’t make it have something worthwhile to fall into?) or for clubs to operate full-fledged ‘B’ teams such as Real Madrid and Barcelona do in the Spanish second division.
In Brazil, scholars frequently sign small contracts which keeps them in the youth development system up to the age of 22 – and it’s no coincidence that many Brazilian superstars have break out seasons in their early-twenties, whilst so many English ‘wonder kids’ at 18 look distinctly average a few years later.
Time will tell, but a side-effect of this new austere age may well be that it becomes more affordable for clubs to retain talented prospects until 21, or older, than to import a ready made foreign player.

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
Some Solutions? (…) The FA have just released ‘The Future Game’ document which lays out their vision for developing elite youth players over the next 10 years. It has been written after consultation with hundreds of academy coaches as well as physical and psychological development specialists. … Another core element of The FA’s youth strategy is the much-delayed opening of a National Football Centre (…) Both ‘The Future Game’ and the National Football Centre are, I believe, significant steps in the right direction. (…)
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Comment-Ben Trasler / July 1, 2010 at 9:20 pm: One point that I would make though is the opening of National Football Centre, whilst important, shouldn’t be relied upon to bring us future success. Italy and France both have their own centres in Coverciano and Clarefontaine and you can see how ultimately they’ve worked out after their own ‘golden generations’ have expired. The French were more of a basketcase than a national football side in South Africa whilst the Italians lacked even less penetration and creativity than England.

Youth Development, the World Cup & England’s Future Jun 28, 2010 / By backpagefootball.com
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Comment-Pat Mcavena / July 4, 2010 at 8:00 am: I think that you do have a serious foreign player problem in England and it does seriously limit your talent pool. Your talk of people not being able to take the next step to the first team is quite frankly bull****. The real problem with the soccer in England is the owners of the clubs. They are only interested in a good product on the field and not the development of their countries own players. Yes you can get some knowledge or advantage with someone who knows something different but unless you strive to develop the talent for yourself it does you no good. How many foreign players were playing in the premiership when England won the World Cup . Also your comment on the population differences between your countries doesn’t hold if you consider Paraguay and Uruguay. And maybe England would consider a more rigid fitness strategy the Germans are putting all other teams to shame by running them into the ground.

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Youth Development: The Euro Stars August, 2007 / By au.fourfourtwo.com
In the second of our four-part series, we meet the Europeans who are leading the way in youth development.
Dutch … Football. How? By becoming experts in youth development. No other country in the world has squeezed so much talent from such scarce resources as Holland. (…) These days, five clubs dominate youth development: “Across all the age groups, the successful teams are spread between those five clubs, but no one club dominates. Ajax have a great programme, but it’s no better than many other clubs.” (…)
But the top clubs do not work alone. Without the thriving local football scene they would struggle. There is no organised schools football, but there are nearly 2500 local clubs of which 95 percent have a fully functioning youth set-up. (…)
“In Holland the pyramid is very big…” Few can dispute that the best coaches in the world are produced in Holland. … In Zeist, just east of Utrecht, the only dedicated coaches’ academy in the world has been producing top coaches for the past 30 years. Today, there are more than 100 Dutch coaches working around the world. … Youth coaches are particularly valued in Holland, with jobs in a club’s youth set-up very prestigious. Half of the youth coaches at Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV are former players. “I think if you want to be a good coach you need to start right at the bottom,” says Sturing. “I’ve coached at all the different age groups and it’s the only way you can make mistakes and try different things. If you start at the top level you can’t make mistakes because you then have a problem.”
All of this begs the question: if Holland has the best coaches and the best youth system, why have they never won the World Cup? … DEFENDER … “The Dutch are obsessed with playing beautiful football,” says Span. “We’d rather lose than win by playing ugly and that’s why we’ve never been world champions.”

Youth Development: The Euro Stars August, 2007 / By au.fourfourtwo.com
One country which has managed to become world champions and play great football is France. … The reason is simple: they’ve moved ahead of the rest of Europe in the development of players. On matchday one of this season’s Champions League, the country with the most players in the 32 starting line-ups was Brazil with 65. Next was France with 37. Portugal had 24, Italy 22, Holland 15, Spain 15, England just 14 while there were only 12 Germans. That France is now producing more top-quality players than any other country in Europe
Spain also boast one of Europe’s best youth clubs – Antiguoko. … The system in Spain usually has one main club being fed by several smaller local clubs. The parent club pays the feeder club a “salary” and that ensures they get first pick of the best players. “The Spanish system is pretty comprehensive,” says Englishman Phil Ball, resident of San Sebastian and author of Morbo: The Story of Spanish Football. “They combine schools football and club football, so that one weekend the kids will play with the school and a week later they will play for the local clubs. The coaching is more specialised at the clubs and the best players at the local clubs then get invited to train with the professional club, but the school and club teams are being monitored all the time so nobody can slip through the net.”

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Youth Development: The Euro Stars August, 2007 / By au.fourfourtwo.com
Of course, academies aren’t the only place to play football – Johan Cruyff and George Best didn’t learnt in an academy, they learnt on the street – but cultural changes in Europe have seen street football decline for 20 years. “Marcello Lippi is always bemoaning that kids are playing far less street football today,” says Roxburgh. “In central and northern Europe we really need to try and recreate an environment where there is more spontaneity and freedom of expression with a football. They play a lot of futsal in Spain and Portugal, which is what the Brazilians do, and it’s great for the grass roots, but it’s not so big in Europe. In the past, there were plenty of kids playing in the street so there were plenty of lads to choose from. Now, though, there have to be structures in place in order to find the best players.”

Youth Development: The Euro Stars August, 2007 / By au.fourfourtwo.com
(…) When Belgian footballer Jean-Marc Bosman won his landmark ruling in 1995, the floodgates were flung wide open for out-of-contract players in the European Union to change clubs without a transfer fee. All of a sudden it was almost impossible for all but the richest clubs to hold on to their best players beyond the terms of their existing deals. (…) In the post-Bosman era, many clubs in Europe gave up on youth development. Why develop your own players only to see them sign for another club when they turn 18? This prompted UEFA to insist clubs include a certain number of homegrown players in their squad. But because the EU does not allow discrimination by nationality, clubs can get around the rules. If anything, the directive has encouraged bigger clubs to poach players from other countries at an even younger age. No prizes for guessing which country is the worst culprit…
It seems that English clubs are unable or unwilling to put their efforts into developing homegrown talent, and instead adopt the role of football imperialists, determined to assert their influence around the globe. PSV Eindhoven are morphing into a feeder club for Chelsea, Arsenal have Belgian side Beveren, while Liverpool are tightening their grip on Antiguoko.

Just as rising sea levels are giving Holland’s landscape planners headaches, the globalisation of the game in the post-Bosman era is giving Dutch football even bigger obstacles. But they have a plan. Before 2011, Ajax want to increase turnover by six percent every year, return to the top 16 of clubs in Europe and win the Dutch championship once every two years. The club’s main ambition, though, is to win the Champions League again.

“In the mid-1960s nobody in the world would have believed that Ajax could win the European Cup,” says David Endt, former Ajax player and current team manager. “But to everyone’s amazement we won it three times. In the 1980s people were again saying Ajax could never win a European title again, but in 1987 we won the Cup Winners’ Cup, in 1992 we won the UEFA Cup and in 1995 we won the Champions League. Now we are in a period where everybody is again saying we won’t succeed in Europe. But this club will always find a way to spring a surprise.”

If they do return to the top of the European game it will not be achieved by purchasing success, but by making the most of the talent on their doorstep. As they say in Holland “No Youth, No Future.”

Youth Development: The Euro Stars August, 2007 / By au.fourfourtwo.com
(…) Another consequence of the Bosman ruling and the inexorable rise of the Champions League is the increasing gap between the rich and poor clubs. Ajax’s annual turnover is less than £50 million ($118m), Manchester United’s is £165 million ($388m). The new television deal for Premiership football will only widen that gap. In a typical display of Dutch resourcefulness the Amsterdam club have wrestled with the new challenges facing them and have attempted various changes in strategy. Ajax have joined the Stock Exchange, dabbled in ideas such as forming a North Atlantic League, extended their area of influence in the US and Africa and gambled on buying players on the cheap from Eastern Europe. But Muhren believes Ajax and the other Dutch clubs must stick to what they do best – nurturing talent

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(JIWON: I promise. The cycle will continue until “EVERBODY involved in this Bimbo-Battle” is out of La Scala; Barenboim’s Angels and Their Toy-musicians, who work for or against Barenboim, and Barenboim’s Rivals, who have been offering a sudden support to Barenboim’s Angels, and Their Toy-musicians.

And then, Daniel Barenboim himself should be the first one kicked out of La Scala… in the most humiliated way.)

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